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I know I've always said stuff like "omg TDA is overused" and "omg *insert thing here*" is overused but
you know what? Fuck that. I've had a change of opinion and i'd just like to share it publicly,
Please note before I start that this is not aimed at anyone in particular, and it is not intended to start drama. I did not write this to "get back at anyone" or anything. I'm writing because it is my opinion.
so. (also this is kinda similar to EndiBell's journal if anyone wants to check that out too)

If everyone and their mother wants to use..for example, TDA. You know what? let them. 
Sure, it's overused as hell, sure it looks bad, sure it looks tacky, sure it may look this and that and the other. But you know..so what? If it gives someone happiness and it's their hobby, let them. If it makes someone happy and is a fun pass time for them to edit TDA Miku for example; fine. Even if their edits suck, it's fine. There's no need for said person to be hated on. 

As long as they're not harming anyone, or breaking rules (In which case yeah, they need to be corrected or called out) just let people do it. Let people make their TDA OCs or FNaF models or Undertale videos. They may look like death , sure. They may look (for lack of a more polite word) shitty. In fact, to be honest..most do. No offence.

But honestly. As long as they're not doing anything illegal. What is the problem with it?

It might make them happy to upload hundreds of TDA OCs. It may look horrible to others, but it's a hobby that gives them happiness. It's fun to them. They like doing it and they enjoy it. They may not be talented, but they don't do anything wrong. Therefore who is anyone else to hate them for doing something they enjoy?

The same can be said about many things in the MMDC. For example, MMD and Photoshop. There's the whole thing that "lens flares drawn hair is boring" etc. Yeah, sure. It is indeed overused as hell; and boring at that. And it does look bad, unless done right. I've seen plenty of pictures with MMD and Photoshop looking absolutely awful- my own included too. 

But you know what? 
Let people upload what they want. If it brings them happiness, then let them do it. Don't stomp on others' happiness just because they're doing something that's been done before. 
It's the same with making Miku models. Making "Meet the MMDer" things. Making Miku Append edits. Yeah they're all overused as hell; but who is anyone to stop it? Let people upload what they want.

Of course, there is an exception to this when people are blatantly copying each other. Like completely copying a picture or model. The same goes when someone is breaking a model rule or something. Or if someone is uploading content that is harmful, upsetting, or inappropriate. In cases like that, it's okay to whine about their content. because they're actually doing something wrong in that situation. It's okay to hate on them because they are blatantly disobeying rules and ripping others off. But apart from that I see so many people being called boring and talent-less and generic and literally stamped on, just for using TDA or using Photoshop or using an effect or something like that. 

Just..let people be. Let them make their generic TDA miku edits. Let them fiddle with the same old effects. Let them draw their badly drawn hair in Photoshop. Let them have fun. 

Let them do what they want, as long as they aren't harming others or breaking rules.

If you really want this "community" to change like everyone says, you're going to have to stop hating on every little thing you don't like. 
Reasons like this is why I've seen new people afraid to join the MMD "community". they are literally too afraid to join because they are afraid to be hated on from the get-go. and it needs to stop.

Just food for thought. :/
sorry, I was in the mood to rant. Sorry if this makes no sense 
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K0K0R039 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Preech
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babmon Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2016
preach :")

it's a bit sad that a few really good mmders have left the community, thanks to the same reason— hate. i mean, i've been hated on, i got used to it though. however, i feel like this hate is slowly increasing and if anything, it's making our community look bad and for a lack of a better word, toxic. many of the mmders are actually pretty young (take me for an example i guess??), while some of them are able to take criticism, some aren't. these people should actually think who's behind the screen and whatnot, not the quality of work.

tda is overused, sure, even i use tda. but, if it brings a smile to someone's face, it's not overused at all. it's their source of joy, why hate on them?

tda can look bad, yes. with tons of practice, it can look really good! (Crystallyna / Jjinomu are editors i really look up to for their tda edits haha). it's also easy to use apart from the fixing of some twist bones too.

besides, what's so bad about bad mmd renders? when you get better, it shows how much you've progressed. it will make you cringe, but also make you happy that you've improved that much previously.
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Reinbuu-sama Featured By Owner Edited Sep 8, 2016
i've got like 4k subs on Youtube (not a lot but not bad for the MMD scene I think) and a lot of my videos are of my Tda IA edits. What frustrates me is if I make a video with Tda Miku, that video will BLOW. UP. (compared to my standard content). So I'm torn because I hate using Tda Miku, I think she's boring and overused, but apparently that's what people want to see??

But for the point of this journal, I totally agree 100%. Tda is a high quality model that's very easy to edit so it's a great starting point for beginners, I think.
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Mindslash-Ogonken Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2016
It's the same with FNAF and Undertale. You use ONE model from that franchise and everybody ignores your other videos and pays attention to that one. I've had it happen to me...
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Reinbuu-sama Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2016
Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the only reason I even have so many subs is because I used to make Hetalia content lmao
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Mindslash-Ogonken Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2016
It's sad, isn't it? People are so selective...
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S-Neoul Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
made me feel like shit but inspired me to try making different types of model edits :'')
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
r i p :')
you do what you want fam?? ? ? do whatever model type YOU like best, not what others like
do what works best and looks best for u
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S-Neoul Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i love tda is my comfort zone but i will try other styles since um--
yeah-
this journal was inspiring??
in a way??
:')
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
ooh thank you..<3
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Shaka-yo Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
Interesting.

I can not speak for anyone but myself.
When I entered the mmd there was not tda and had a variety of models a little big, but these days every new model that I see just showing another ten or twenty for more of the same model in tda.
This particularly discouraged me a little at first, but I do not comment on anything just keep watching what is happening.
For some time now I'm giving up posting the few renders I do.
Isse feeling of wanting to get away even enjoying the Community have I explain a little journal that I made: fav.me/d9z9l2a

What beautiful words are written and it would be nice if people would read and understand, but this will of each.
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
this.
this this this this this this.
ily I stg

I wish you could like comments on deviantart tbh. I would like this 100 times over. oh well, a feature will do.

Exactly. I'm certainly not anti criticism- quite the opposite, I love getting and giving constructive criticism, and I'm sure most people do. It's very very useful and productive, and as long as you're polite in giving it then I see no problem in it. It's great.
But yeah, you're exactly right. Telling people they should leave a community because their work is bad and that they're "toxic" and "talentless" and "lazy" simply isn't on. I'd even go as far as to call it cyberbullying- I've seen it get pretty bad. So yeah.
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Iku-P Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
Omg thank you ;; ily2

Same, it's amazing when people give comments where they tell me what they like and dislike about my work.
This is especially helpful to new MMDers! Cause if you only just started using the program, it's natural that you'd be bad at posing, break rules, etc. If someone politely points out your mistakes, you'll be able to fix them. But if all you get is hate (ALL VERY BAD //shot) you'll just feel like trash, and might even give up on something you enjoy.
Yeah... sadly it often qualifies as cyberbullying. But nobody does anything because people say "it's just an opinion, learn to take criticism, kiddo" even though it wasn't criticism???? Like holy shit why do so many people think hate=criticism??????
It doesn't help that most of MMDC (me included) are teenagers - therefore, generally, highly emotional people - and we might even get depressed when someone throws shit at us.
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Miitama Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
praise.. just praise.
these words bear so much truth.
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you so much
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Typo-P Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
praise this journal

this is adding on to me never stopping generic tda edits 
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!

pft. Who cares? as long as ur not breaking any rules or literally ripping off someone else's TDA edit, then go ahead. You do your thing fam
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GingerCat-P Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Tbh I feel this and I wish I had more strength to keep on doing what I enjoy ;v;

I always worry too much about using Tda too much because of how overused it is, but I still like using it. I just wish my skills were better to make my stuff unique...
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Same, same tbh..;;

Same here. And I mean TDA is a beautiful model type in itself; it's wonderful and gives great results when used correctly. Can you really blame people for not using it?
also are you kidding?? your model edits are goals I swear. Stop that u
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GingerCat-P Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, true. Tda can look good in the right hands, aha.
also plEASE YOU ARE TOO KIND THERE ARE MANY FLAWS IN MY STUFF HHH--
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
exactly. TDA is higher quality than a lot of other types available out there anyway.
and nO i'm serious? ? ? b o I don't be so harsh on yourself!
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GingerCat-P Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
tRUe

aND THANK !!! ;0;
im trying lately to put more pride into my work, i think it's kinda working aha ;v;
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
TDA is gr8..and is also now a touchy subject after all that's happened with that drama over it with damesuke

Yee it's good cx you should definitely have pride, your work is simply fab ;w;
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GingerCat-P Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah :'/
But I don't use/make r18 stuff with it so i will just carry on using it like normal :')

aaaa thank youu ;0;
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Nashie-C Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can we just like, nominate you as the spokes person for the MMDC. It would be a much better place. This describes how it could be a better place perfectly! 

I needa save this link, I wanna feature this sometime. 
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
>"spokesperson for the MMDC"
o my boi
nah it would be better to nominate someone like you, you're calm and mature and chill. I'm far too stubborn and have too bad of a temper tbh :/ I would lose my shit every 5 minutes and that's not good

thank you though! oh my
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Nashie-C Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do too! Also I'm always super uber busy! I'd never have time '''orz or the patience... 
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Same same...I'm super busy nowadays with school ;-; I never seem to have a single moment to myself.
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Hureyosan Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If I didn't respect you enough before, now I do. This is awesome.
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you bab, I'm glad you agree. Tbh I was worried this was gonna get a bunch of hate when I uploaded it so this is such a nice surprise
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Hureyosan Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No one deserves hate for saying the truth tho, haha. You're welcome!
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess but there's always gonna be some that don't agree with it and decide to react super immaturely..thank you again!
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Hureyosan Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is what happens when you forget to spank your kids daily; they hate on amazing people on the internet.
Oh shit i went too far i'm so sorry--
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Noo it's not too far XD (at least not imo--)
In the words of filthy frank: "parents need to beat their fuckin' kids"
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Hureyosan Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm like this now because I was spanked by mama when I was little, that's the right way of doing it : D But I guess she spanked it so hard that I developed mental diseases.. D : boi

PAPA FRANKUUU
dun tell me you're into filthy trash too omg
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Carm101 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This rant done snatched my edges.

I'm sure a lot of people have said this but

Preach. It!
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
ah thank you so much! .w.
I'm so glad you agree
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PostalServices Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
How is this not common sense?
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
you'd be surprised, unfortunately. The community is pretty darn hateful.
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PostalServices Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
But it should just be common sense in general. It could apply to literally anything. Not just MMD community.
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, yes. And it would be lovely if that was the case..
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PostalServices Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
... :/
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
is something wrong?
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PostalServices Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I just don't understand why this journal has to exist... It should be obvious to not make fun of people for doing something that makes them happy. They aren't hurting anyone, so it should be clear to not do anything to them. I don't get why people need reminders like this.
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
ah.
Well I mean this journal was made towards the MMD community, so i'm going to use the community while explaining why it exists.

This community is full of "Hate blogs", blogs on places like tumblr and such that literally enjoy ripping people's art to shreds and calling it horrible, awful, etc. just for the fun of it. As a result, heaps of users have been getting discouraged and leaving. (if you'd like a link to one such blog for reference I could note it to you.) As well as that there's a huge thing about hating certain model types being used, and certain ways of making pictures. People are fighting constantly over it. I can't speak for other communities that I'm not a part of, but I can tell you for this one that there's been a bunch of unhappiness among the people here.

And, that being said too, what's the harm in reminding people to be positive? :)
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Jiryuu Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016
I agree wholeheartedly with all of this. 
Honestly, it's because of the hate and selfishness that Higuchi Yu has given up on MMD because the JPers wouldn't follow his rules that he put on the program and ended up sending him threats and whatnot (at least that what I read a long time ago).
Seriously, all of this hate just needs to freaking stop. It's getting old and banal REAL fast. -_-  
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Pocky-Poison Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah. Is that really what happened? I wasn't around when that all happened, so I wouldn't really know about it. Damn. It's a real shame things had to turn out that way...i'm not surprised though.
and exactly. But I guess until people start trying to make steps to change it nothing is really going to change..
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